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GreaterMUD Discussion => Captures => Topic started by: ChipOffTheOlChuck on December 06, 2014, 08:20:44 AM

Poll
Question: Puts the whole see hidden thing into perspective when u cant see jack.
Option 1: Luci get over it u lost votes: 3
Option 2: Maybe not its not worth the effort votes: 3
Option 3: Yes but only because they're bs'able in majormud votes: 6
Option 4: Yes because it gives u a garanteed backstab-free life. votes: 3
Option 5: Yes because it renders sneak fighters useless like thieves. votes: 2
Title: Should gaunts be bs'able if they're blind as a bat?
Post by: ChipOffTheOlChuck on December 06, 2014, 08:20:44 AM
i had winded him earlier but missed it on backscroll but he was blind
 
 Sneaking...
 Ancient Crypt
 Obvious exits: south, west
 The room is barely visible
 Flex  walks into the room from the south.
 [HP=344/MA=91]:
 Ancient Crypt
 Obvious exits: south, west
 The room is barely visible
[HP=344/MA=91]:sea
You see Flex hiding in the shadows.
[HP=344/MA=91]:hold flex
 You cast hold person on Flex!
 [HP=344/MA=79]:sn
Attempting to sneak...
[HP=344/MA=79]:hid
Attempting to hide...
[HP=344/MA=79]:bs flex
 *Combat Engaged*
 [HP=344/MA=79]:track flex
Flex went west from here.
[HP=344/MA=79]:
 Ancient Crypt
 Also here:  Flex*.
 Obvious exits: south, west
 The room is barely visible
 BACKSTAB?
 You cut Flex for 8 damage!
 You swipe at at Flex!
 You slice Flex for 10 damage!
You slice Flex for 13 damage!
 [HP=344/MA=79]:wind
 *Combat Off*
 You make a sweeping gesture!
 A cool wind blows throughout the room!
 [HP=344/MA=49]:sn
Attempting to sneak...
[HP=344/MA=49]:sn
Attempting to sneak...
[HP=344/MA=49]:hid
Attempting to hide...
[HP=344/MA=49]:hid
Attempting to hide...
[HP=344/MA=49]:sea
 You notice 3 fine broadswords here.
 [HP=344/MA=49]:hold flex
You have already cast a spell this round!
[HP=344/MA=49]:sn
Attempting to sneak...
[HP=344/MA=49]:hid
Attempting to hide... You don't think you are hidden.
[HP=344/MA=49]:bs flex
 *Combat Engaged*
 [HP=344/MA=49]:track flex
Flex went west from here.
[HP=344/MA=49]:break
 *Combat Off*
 [HP=344/MA=49]:sea
 You notice 3 fine broadswords here.
 [HP=344/MA=49]:sn
Attempting to sneak...
[HP=344/MA=49]:hid
Attempting to hide... You don't think you are hidden.
[HP=344/MA=49]:bs flex
 *Combat Engaged*
 [HP=344/MA=49]:break
 *Combat Off*
 [HP=344/MA=49]:sea
 You notice 4 fine broadswords here.
 [HP=344/MA=49]:sn
Attempting to sneak...
[HP=344/MA=49]:hid
Attempting to hide...
[HP=344/MA=49]:bs flex
 *Combat Engaged*
 BACKSTAB?
 You swipes at at Flex, but he dodges out of the way!
 You slash Flex for 8 damage!
You slash Flex for 3 damage!
 You swipe at at Flex!
 [HP=344/MA=57]:break
 *Combat Off*
 [HP=344/MA=57]:sea
 You notice 4 fine broadswords here.
 [HP=344/MA=57]:sn
Attempting to sneak...
[HP=344/MA=57]:hid
Attempting to hide...
[HP=344/MA=57]:bs flex
 *Combat Engaged*
 BACKSTAB?
 You cut Flex for 11 damage!
 You swipe at at Flex!
You swipes at at Flex, but he dodges out of the way!
You swipe at at Flex!
 Flex moves to attack you!
 [HP=344/MA=57]:break
 *Combat Off*
 [HP=344/MA=57]:sea
 You notice 4 fine broadswords here.
 [HP=344/MA=57]:sn
Attempting to sneak...You don't think you're sneaking.
[HP=344/MA=57]:hid
Attempting to hide... You don't think you are hidden.
[HP=344/MA=57]:bs flex
 *Combat Engaged*
 [HP=344/MA=57]:s
 Ancient Crypt
 You notice 3 fine broadswords here.
 Obvious exits: north, south, closed door west
 The room is barely visible
[HP=344/MA=57]:sn
You may not sneak right now!
[HP=344/MA=57]:s
 Mirror gangpaths:  hug 90 turquoise potions
*Combat Off*
 Ancient Crypt
 Also here:  large skeletal warrior.
 Obvious exits: north, east
 The room is barely visible
[HP=344/MA=57]:e
 Ancient Crypt, Tomb
 Also here:  moaning spirit.
 Obvious exits: east, west
 The room is barely visible
[HP=344/MA=57]:w
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Title: Re: Should gaunts be bs'able if they're blind as a bat?
Post by: Greater on December 06, 2014, 08:28:03 AM
Gaunts being immune to backstabs is a glaring issue regardless of blind being on them or not.
Title: Re: Should gaunts be bs'able if they're blind as a bat?
Post by: y2duhh on December 06, 2014, 03:48:32 PM
totally agreed Backstabbing pvp in general needs to be looked at and reworked, another huge glaring issues is the ability to break/hide/sneak/bs without any pauses in time and the abilte to leave the room sneak and come back in while combat is still engaged on you.  All 3 of these issues need to be addressed at once though and not just fixing gaunts and leaving the other two huge glaring pvp issues out there.
Title: Re: Should gaunts be bs'able if they're blind as a bat?
Post by: ChipOffTheOlChuck on December 06, 2014, 07:14:31 PM
like sneaking in engaging a bs but sneaking out if u decide to relocate without the engagement breaking ur sneak? I'm not surf bout that. If u were gonna sneak up and backstabbing someone irl but decided not to and moved away quietly I don't think that person would ever know the almost got stabbed.
Title: Re: Should gaunts be bs'able if they're blind as a bat?
Post by: y2duhh on December 06, 2014, 07:50:01 PM
No its when lets say you are hidden and i search you out and engage on  you then you engage on me you can leave the room sneak and come back in the room and engage on me while the whole time I will think combat is engaged on you, which it will not be and you will get a backstab off on me. This is not how it works in Majormud, if I have combat engaged you will not be able to sneak again until combat is broken on both sides.
Title: Re: Should gaunts be bs'able if they're blind as a bat?
Post by: ChipOffTheOlChuck on December 06, 2014, 07:56:57 PM
We agree on how major mud operates but im unaware of the ability to engage sneak while combats still engaged like bsing huge obsidian golem lets just call him hog, leaving the room running about 3 rooms cuz he chases but I run and I can't engage sneak for a few seconds cuz of hogs combat on me. Since everyone but me seems to know this flaw why not teach me so I can abuse it too EVIL ass grin