Order of Combat

[Rage]

The 'whoever was in the room first gets first round regardless of who engaged first' thing is just horrible for PvP.

I walk in the room with someone and engage my BS...then they search me out with a spam macro(no search delay is yet another thing screwing us backstabbers over) and move to attack.  Since they automatically get first round my BS will turn into a normal attack every time. I have a BS engaged already shouldn't it go first?

it's more than just backstabs.  PvP has just turned into who can goad the other person into walking into their room so they get dibs on first round.

I believe in regular mud whoever engaged first got first round...I propose we move to that if possible.

[Zetetic]

I completely agree with this. First person to engage gaining the first place in combat order also means that if you want to cast a spell between combat rounds, you might be giving up the first attack of the round. People spamming attack macros are also disadvantaged by this system.

In regular mud, if you had a backstab engaged and then the other person searched you out or engaged in combat with you, your backstab would become a normal round. Engaging a backstab yourself did not break your own sneak, but it would break your hide so that you are visible in the room. I think that if you engaged a backstab or combat on someone who was sneaking, it would not break their sneak unless the combat round goes off, can anyone remember that part correctly?

[Rage]

I'm fairly sure in regular mud as long as you engaged first, and we're sneaking or hiding, your bs went off no matter what happened after(unless re-engage)...you could speak in the room and still get the bs after as long as the attack was engaged beforehand.

[Jigga]

I second this... the way things are now, the guy who sits in a room spamming an attack macro gets the advantage rather than the guy who's on the move. The classes who should do the best at PVP are doing the worst. Your sneaking/backstabbing classes are screwed. There's the Gaunt One thing, then this spellmod shit which had made spell ridiculously overpowered, and your combat 4 and 5 tanks using bash, which is now gotten out of control too. As long as they just sit still, the sneaker/backstabber has a slim chance.

On another note, Rage is correct, in MMUD once your backstab is engaged, you will backstab (or whiff / they dodge), but it won't get switched to a normal round.