The crit max damage and crit % unfixes

[Aviendha]

Not certain if this is where I should post this but here goes anyway. (It was here or on Gardner's release notes!)

Mulan's damage before the crit max fix:

Exp:   369 k/hr
Cash:  0 copper/hr
Miss:  31%
Hit:   31%   Rng:8-56     Avg:26
Extra: 0%    Rng:0-0      Avg:0
Crit:  38%   Rng:66-273   Avg:158
BS:    ---   Rng:0-0      Avg:0
Pre:   N/A   Rng:0-0      Avg:0
Cast:  N/A   Rng:0-0      Avg:0
Round:       Rng:0-624    Avg:201
Sneak: 0% 
Dodge: 26% 

Mulan's damage after the crit max fix:

Exp:   262 k/hr
Cash:  0 copper/hr
Miss:  28%
Hit:   34%   Rng:13-43    Avg:23
Extra: 0%    Rng:0-0      Avg:0
Crit:  38%   Rng:89-220   Avg:143
BS:    ---   Rng:0-0      Avg:0
Pre:   N/A   Rng:0-0      Avg:0
Cast:  N/A   Rng:0-0      Avg:0
Round:       Rng:13-320   Avg:129
Sneak: 0%   
Dodge: 26% 

Mulan after crit% fix:

Exp:   244 k/hr
Cash:  0 copper/hr
Miss:  22%
Hit:   34%   Rng:8-48     Avg:25
Extra: 0%    Rng:0-0      Avg:0
Crit:  44%   Rng:68-220   Avg:132
BS:    ---   Rng:0-0      Avg:0
Pre:   N/A   Rng:0-0      Avg:0
Cast:  N/A   Rng:0-0      Avg:0
Round:       Rng:0-585    Avg:159
Sneak: 0%   
Dodge: 26%

Mulan after training lvl 43:

Exp:   255 k/hr
Cash:  0 copper/hr
Miss:  20%
Hit:   33%   Rng:8-48     Avg:25
Extra: 0%    Rng:0-0      Avg:0
Crit:  47%   Rng:68-224   Avg:131
BS:    ---   Rng:0-0      Avg:0
Pre:   N/A   Rng:0-0      Avg:0
Cast:  N/A   Rng:0-0      Avg:0
Round:       Rng:0-585    Avg:156
Sneak: 0%   
Dodge: 26% 

Mulan after trading amber pearl earrings for cobra earrings:

Exp:   265 k/hr
Cash:  0 copper/hr
Miss:  21%
Hit:   31%   Rng:8-58     Avg:25
Extra: 0%    Rng:0-0      Avg:0
Crit:  48%   Rng:68-227   Avg:131
BS:    ---   Rng:0-0      Avg:0
Pre:   N/A   Rng:0-0      Avg:0
Cast:  N/A   Rng:0-0      Avg:0
Round:       Rng:0-592    Avg:155
Sneak: 0%   
Dodge: 22% 

Overall, her round range is down by 32, her round average is down 46, her crit % is up between 6% and 8%, her max crit damage is down 46 and her crit average is down by 27. After training a level and exchanging dodge gear for damage/crit/accuracy gear there shouldn't have been a loss of damage. AARRGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.  >:(

Edit:

Name: Mulan Hua                        Lives/CP:      9/2
Race: Nekojin     Exp: 319615422       Perception:     75
Class: Mystic     Level: 43            Stealth:       139
Hits:   303/388   Armour Class:  37/1  Thievery:        0
Kai:     24/42                         Traps:           0
                                       Picklocks:       0
Strength:  100    Agility: 125         Tracking:      183
Intellect: 75     Health:  80          Martial Arts:  188
Willpower: 75     Charm:   82          MagicRes:       85
The spirit of the crane inhabits your body!
You are blurred!
You feel evasive!
You feel ferocious!

[HP=332/KAI=24]:i
You are carrying 1 platinum piece, silvery skullcap (Head), clawed gloves
(Hands), white gold ring (Finger), gold jeweled ring (Finger), demonhide
sandals (Feet), platinum bracers (Arms), crimson cloak (Back), tiger-claw
necklace (Neck), spider silk trousers (Legs), lionskin belt (Waist), silversilk
tunic (Torso), emerald-studded bracelet (Wrist), ogre bone bracelet (Wrist),
cobra earrings (Ears), head of the orc warlord (Worn), ruby staff (Weapon
Hand), phoenix feather, mine pass
You have the following keys: golden idol.
Wealth: 10000 copper farthings
Encumbrance: 1126/5040 - Light [22%]

Sorry...was tired and forgot this information. If mana on Avi and Gyspy allows she is also blessed with prev, dfav, blur and smit. Mulan always has cfrm on and is set to bless with monk, tige and boar if kai allows. Normally she has cfrm, monk and a couple from the cleric and gypsy. The only gear change was from amber pearl earrings to cobra earrings as noted above. The blesses haven't been changed in weeks and the combat stats are from scripting Tasloi Village and Barren Hills. I alternated between areas so we could kill the tasloi bosses and hill giant chieftain a couple of times each day.

The first stats were copied immediately after the crit max fix was deployed, then mega was reset to see how the fix would effect her stats. The second stats were copied immediately after the crit % fix was deployed and mega was reset again. The others were done throughout the next 2 days, and as stated above. I didn't record times so can't give you those. All stats are from scripting both Tasloi Village (hard) and Barren Hills. Most of them include hill giant chieftain kills too.

[Gardner Denver]

For Mulan:   (included for debugging)
Spell effects
AC(2)                      -50
Textblock(148)             2911
Accuracy3(106)             15
Prev(24)                   10
KickAv(90)                 4
JumpKDmg(94)               4
DescMsg(115)               19606
JumpKAv(91)                4
Good(97)                   10
PunchAv(89)                -10
PunchDmg(92)               -5
KickDmg(93)                4
RemovesSpell(122)          157
Dodge(34)                  5
Crits(58)                  -5


Mulan,

Posting just the megamud combat totals helps, be we really need inventory, stats, what time frames and areas does that cover, what do you attack with ect to go along with this.  This is only a partial picture that you've given us.

[Gardner Denver]

Also need to know all blesses being run on you.

[Aviendha]

Okay Gardner. Now you can see what Mulan should be doing. I rolled Morgan/EntConn to nekojin mystic and trained her to the same level, assigned her cp the same way. Both are scripting solo in the catacombs outside Lost City. Mulan needs silversilk gloves and a diamond-encrusted bracelet to be equipped with gear identical to Morgan's gear. Looking at these numbers, greatermud has a long way to go. The two items that don't match also don't account for the differences between the characters.

Name: Morgan KiroDoragon               Lives/CP:      9/2 Race: Nekojin     Exp: 463406295       Perception:     75 Class: Mystic     Level: 43                   Stealth:          141 Hits:   417/417   Armour Class:  39/0  Thievery:        0 Kai:     40/42                                       Traps:             0                                                            Picklocks:       0 Strength:  100    Agility: 125               Tracking:       183 Intellect: 75       Health:  80                 Martial Arts:  354 Willpower: 75   Charm:   82                MagicRes:       95 The spirit of the crane inhabits your body! You feel evasive! You feel ferocious!	Name: Mulan Hua                               Lives/CP:       9/2 Race: Nekojin     Exp: 323776932       Perception:     75 Class: Mystic      Level: 43                  Stealth:           139 Hits:   338/388   Armour Class:  37/1  Thievery:        0 Kai:     10/42                                       Traps:             0                                                             Picklocks:       0 Strength:  100      Agility: 125              Tracking:        183 Intellect: 75         Health:  80                 Martial Arts:  188 Willpower: 75     Charm:   82                MagicRes:       85 The spirit of the crane inhabits your body! You feel evasive! You feel ferocious!
. Exp:   280 k/hr Cash:  0 copper/hr Miss:  19% Hit:   44%   Rng:16-57    Avg:34 Extra: 0%    Rng:0-0      Avg:0 Crit:  37%   Rng:116-231  Avg:176 BS:    ---   Rng:0-0      Avg:0 Pre:   N/A   Rng:0-0      Avg:0 Cast:  N/A   Rng:0-0      Avg:0 Round:       Rng:34-575   Avg:290 Sneak: 0%    Dodge: 74%	. Exp:   239 k/hr Cash:  0 copper/hr Miss:  32% Hit:   26%   Rng:8-43     Avg:21 Extra: 0%    Rng:0-0      Avg:0 Crit:  42%   Rng:69-172   Avg:116 BS:    ---   Rng:0-0      Avg:0 Pre:   N/A   Rng:0-0      Avg:0 Cast:  N/A   Rng:0-0      Avg:0 Round:       Rng:17-487   Avg:211 Sneak: 0%    Dodge: 24%
. crimson cloak                  (Back) diamond-encrusted bracelet     (Wrist) emerald-studded bracelet       (Wrist) demonhide sandals              (Feet) lionskin belt                  (Waist) silversilk gloves              (Hands) spider silk trousers           (Legs) gold jeweled ring              (Finger) tiger-claw necklace            (Neck) head of the orc warlord        (Worn) amber pearl earrings           (Ears) white gold ring                (Finger) stormmetal bracers             (Arms) silvery skullcap               (Head) silversilk tunic               (Torso) ruby staff                     (Weapon Hand)	. silvery skullcap               (Head) clawed gloves                  (Hands) white gold ring                (Finger) gold jeweled ring              (Finger) demonhide sandals              (Feet) stormmetal bracers             (Arms) crimson cloak                  (Back) tiger-claw necklace            (Neck) spider silk trousers           (Legs) lionskin belt                  (Waist) silversilk tunic               (Torso) emerald-studded bracelet       (Wrist) ogre bone bracelet             (Wrist) amber pearl earrings           (Ears) head of the orc warlord        (Worn) ruby staff                     (Weapon Hand)

[Gardner Denver]

Looks like we're not figuring martial arts properly for starters.  That's a pretty big difference between the two.

[Aviendha]

I trained Morgan to 47 so will be a while before I can run another comparison. Will discuss rolling the cleric on EntConn with sysop and see if I can give you comparisons for clerics...who knows, he may even have a gypsy I can use to compare to Gyspy.

[The Crazy Animal]

you need to post the encum for each of them too...

[Aviendha]

Mulan: Encumberance: 1116/5040 - Light (22%)
Morgan: Encumberance: 1066/5040 - Light (21%)

Trained Morgan and changed some gear so had to get her stats from MME.

50 enc difference due to ogre bone bracelet and clawed gloves on Mulan vs. diamond-encrusted bracelet and silversilk gloves on Morgan. Both were carrying 1 platinum piece, mine pass and phoenix feather. Neither had keys, rope or any other extra gear. Borrowed silvery skullcap and ruby staff for Morgan, stashed her dusty tricorne and golden sickle.

Name: Mulan Hua                        Lives/CP:      9/2
Race: Nekojin     Exp: 304737000       Perception:      0
Class: Mystic     Level: 43            Stealth:         0
Hits: 306-474     Armour Class: 37/1   Thievery:        0
Mana: 92-92       Spellcasting: 614    Traps:           0
                                       Picklocks:       0
Strength:  100    Agility: 125         Tracking:        0
Intellect: 75     Health:  80          Martial Arts:    0
Willpower: 75     Charm:   82          MagicRes:        0


Armour Class: 37.6/1.6
Encumberance: 1116/5040 - Light (22%)

He is equipped with:

silvery skullcap               (Head)
amber pearl earrings           (Ears)
tiger-claw necklace            (Neck)
crimson cloak                  (Back)
silversilk tunic               (Torso)
stormmetal bracers             (Arms)
emerald-studded bracelet       (Wrist)
ogre bone bracelet             (Wrist)
clawed gloves                  (Hands)
gold jeweled ring              (Finger)
white gold ring                (Finger)
lionskin belt                  (Waist)
spider silk trousers           (Legs)
demonhide sandals              (Feet)
head of the orc warlord        (Worn)
ruby staff                     (Weapon Hand)

Stats: HitPoints +10, Crits +15, Dodge +67, SpellCast +23, Accuracy +32, Max Damage +10, HitPoint Regen +25, Traps +10, Picklocks +10, Illuminatn +150, Magic Resist +10, Fire Resist +10, Cold Resist -10, Lightning Res. +15

Morgan: Encumberance: 1066/5040 - Light (21%)

Name: Morgan DragonKin                 Lives/CP:      9/2
Race: Nekojin     Exp: 304737000       Perception:      0
Class: Mystic     Level: 43            Stealth:         0
Hits: 331-499     Armour Class: 38/0   Thievery:        0
Mana: 92-92       Spellcasting: 614    Traps:           0
                                       Picklocks:       0
Strength:  100    Agility: 125         Tracking:        0
Intellect: 75     Health:  80          Martial Arts:    0
Willpower: 75     Charm:   82          MagicRes:        0


Armour Class: 38.5/-0.5
Encumberance: 1066/5040 - Light (21%)

He is equipped with:

silvery skullcap               (Head)
amber pearl earrings           (Ears)
tiger-claw necklace            (Neck)
crimson cloak                  (Back)
silversilk tunic               (Torso)
stormmetal bracers             (Arms)
emerald-studded bracelet       (Wrist)
diamond-encrusted bracelet     (Wrist)
silversilk gloves              (Hands)
gold jeweled ring              (Finger)
white gold ring                (Finger)
lionskin belt                  (Waist)
spider silk trousers           (Legs)
demonhide sandals              (Feet)
head of the orc warlord        (Worn)
ruby staff                     (Weapon Hand)

Stats: HitPoints +35, Crits +15, Dodge +67, SpellCast +23, Accuracy +27, Max Damage +11, HitPoint Regen +25, Traps +10, Picklocks +10, Illuminatn +150, Magic Resist +20, Fire Resist +10, Cold Resist -10, Lightning Res. +15

[Aviendha]

It has been 45 minutes since I reset Mulan after deployment of the latest fix.

Exp:   479 k/hr
Cash:  0 copper/hr
Miss:  27%
Hit:   24%   Rng:8-43     Avg:25
Extra: 0%    Rng:0-0      Avg:0
Crit:  49%   Rng:82-229   Avg:132
BS:    ---   Rng:0-0      Avg:0
Pre:   N/A   Rng:0-0      Avg:0
Cast:  N/A   Rng:0-0      Avg:0
Round:       Rng:0-438    Avg:188
Sneak: 0%   
Dodge: 25% 

Name: Mulan Hua                        Lives/CP:      9/2
Race: Nekojin     Exp: 335749170       Perception:     75
Class: Mystic     Level: 43            Stealth:       139
Hits:   383/413   Armour Class:  38/0  Thievery:        0
Kai:      9/42                         Traps:           0
                                       Picklocks:       0
Strength:  100    Agility: 125         Tracking:      183
Intellect: 75     Health:  80          Martial Arts:  362
Willpower: 75     Charm:   82          MagicRes:       95
The spirit of the crane inhabits your body!
You feel powerful!
You feel evasive!

You are carrying 1 platinum piece, silvery skullcap (Head), clawed gloves
(Hands), white gold ring (Finger), gold jeweled ring (Finger), demonhide
sandals (Feet), stormmetal bracers (Arms), crimson cloak (Back), tiger-claw
necklace (Neck), spider silk trousers (Legs), lionskin belt (Waist), silversilk
tunic (Torso), diamond-encrusted bracelet (Wrist), emerald-studded bracelet
(Wrist), amber pearl earrings (Ears), head of the orc warlord (Worn), ruby
staff (Weapon Hand), phoenix feather, mine pass
You have the following keys: golden idol.
Wealth: 10000 copper farthings
Encumbrance: 1031/5040 - Light [20%]

Dodge is up 3%, damage, rounds, averages are all down, crit % is about the same, hits are down, misses are up. I don't think this was a very successful fix.

Edit: BTW, scripting the Barren Hills loop.

After another 45 minutes, at time of another deployment:

Exp:   472 k/hr
Cash:  0 copper/hr
Miss:  26%
Hit:   26%   Rng:8-49     Avg:25
Extra: 0%    Rng:0-0      Avg:0
Crit:  48%   Rng:73-232   Avg:136
BS:    ---   Rng:0-0      Avg:0
Pre:   N/A   Rng:0-0      Avg:0
Cast:  N/A   Rng:0-0      Avg:0
Round:       Rng:0-461    Avg:196
Sneak: 0%   
Dodge: 25% 

[Gardner Denver]

Greatermud, prior to this fix
Exp:   239 k/hr
Cash:  0 copper/hr
Miss:  32%
Hit:   26%   Rng:8-43     Avg:21
Extra: 0%    Rng:0-0      Avg:0
Crit:  42%   Rng:69-172   Avg:116
BS:    ---   Rng:0-0      Avg:0
Pre:   N/A   Rng:0-0      Avg:0
Cast:  N/A   Rng:0-0      Avg:0
Round:       Rng:17-487   Avg:211
Sneak: 0%   
Dodge: 24%   


Greatermud currently
Exp:   479 k/hr
Cash:  0 copper/hr
Miss:  27%
Hit:   24%   Rng:8-43     Avg:25
Extra: 0%    Rng:0-0      Avg:0
Crit:  49%   Rng:82-229   Avg:132
BS:    ---   Rng:0-0      Avg:0
Pre:   N/A   Rng:0-0      Avg:0
Cast:  N/A   Rng:0-0      Avg:0
Round:       Rng:0-438    Avg:188
Sneak: 0%   
Dodge: 25% 

Dodge is up 3%, damage, rounds, averages are all down, crit % is about the same, hits are down, misses are up. I don't think this was a very successful fix.

So
Miss rate DROPPED by 5%
Hit rate dropped 2%, range is the same, and average hit is up 4 damage
Crit Rate is up 7%  and the average hit is up 16 points and the range is up over 50 damage
Max round damage is down 49, average is down 32 but I'm not overly concerned on this because Megamud does not calculate this correctly anyhow.
Dodge is up 1%

Exp per hour is up 240kph


Hard to determine how much of that is related to the fix versus how much of that is related to you changing areas to script in.

On the whole however, based on your own testing data, I'd say that it was reasonably successful fix. 

[Aviendha]

Sorry, my bad. Was asleep at the keys when I posted that. These are the numbers after scripting for the night.

Exp:   492 k/hr
Cash:  20 plat/hr
Miss:  25%
Hit:   27%   Rng:8-58     Avg:27
Extra: 0%    Rng:0-0      Avg:0
Crit:  48%   Rng:69-232   Avg:143
BS:    ---   Rng:0-0      Avg:0
Pre:   N/A   Rng:0-0      Avg:0
Cast:  N/A   Rng:0-0      Avg:0
Round:       Rng:0-648    Avg:234
Sneak: 0%   
Dodge: 23% 

Enc hasn't changed, smit and fren added since running in a party rather than solo.

Trained Morgan to 46, traded ruby staff for golden sickle, silvery skullcap for dusty tricorne, ran her with a cleric in Barren Hills for the night and these are her numbers:

Exp:   395 k/hr
Cash:  875 plat/hr
Miss:  10%
Hit:   53%   Rng:1-63     Avg:34
Extra: 0%    Rng:0-0      Avg:0
Crit:  37%   Rng:82-265   Avg:167
BS:    ---   Rng:0-0      Avg:0
Pre:   N/A   Rng:0-0      Avg:0
Cast:  N/A   Rng:0-0      Avg:0
Round:       Rng:12-859   Avg:306
Sneak: 3%   
Dodge: 69% 

Name: Morgan KiroDoragon               Lives/CP:      9/2
Race: Nekojin     Exp: 528971071       Perception:     79
Class: Mystic     Level: 46            Stealth:       146
Hits:   439/439   Armour Class:  38/0  Thievery:        0
Kai:     44/45                         Traps:           0
                                       Picklocks:       0
Strength:  100    Agility: 130         Tracking:      190
Intellect: 78     Health:  80          Martial Arts:  380
Willpower: 78     Charm:   89          MagicRes:       88
You are in the back rank of your group.
The spirit of the crane inhabits your body!
You feel evasive!
You feel ferocious!
You feel safe from evil!

You are carrying 90 gold crowns, diamond-encrusted bracelet (Wrist), demonhide
sandals (Feet), lionskin belt (Waist), silversilk gloves (Hands), spider silk
trousers (Legs), gold jeweled ring (Finger), tiger-claw necklace (Neck), head
of the orc warlord (Worn), silversilk tunic (Torso), stormmetal bracers
(Arms), emerald-studded bracelet (Wrist), white gold ring (Finger), amber
pearl earrings (Ears), crimson cloak (Back), dusty tricorne (Head), golden
sickle (Weapon Hand), phoenix feather, mine pass
You have the following keys:  black star key.
Wealth: 9000 copper farthings
Encumbrance: 961/5040 - Light [19%]

Getting a cleric up to lvl 45 as fast as possible and will be able to do comparisons again for dwarf cleric.