Fuck neutral

Started by DeathCow, March 02, 2010, 11:42:32 PM

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Quote from: schwagg on March 04, 2010, 09:57:32 AM
This was posted nearly a year ago when I made the changes to my mod. If you're going to directly rip ideas off from my mod, at least give credit. See, unlike you, I actually HAVE a mod. I've worked on it for multiple years now. I've released a ton of info and done multiple testing sweep pushes.

Quote from: schwagg on March 04, 2010, 09:57:32 AM
Nobody likes a plagiarist. Give credit where it's due.

Wow Schwagg, you really think highly of yourself.  You actually believe that you, and *only you, could EVER possibly come up with an idea like that? I have been editing mmud since i was 16 and have already implimented that idea on a mmud with my buddy when i was like 19. So how am i supposed to believe that in no way you werent playing on my mmud at that time and, jacked the idea from me?
Deathcow said it, you are being an asshat,(my now new favorite word) if you want to find any excuse to promote your mod in the forums just put it in a seperate post, you ain't got to be a douche and accuse people of jacking your shit when noone gives a fuck about your shit.. Talking trash on forums is one thing, that i respect (it makes for fun reading), but just being a complete douche to someone just to be able to promote your mod? is a douche move.. total douche move.. don't even respond to this, you already stunk up this forum with vinegar you asshat.
Listen peeps, *I INSULT PEOPLE*, thats what I do.

So when I respond to a forum, I insult people equally, I dont descriminate.

It's just me adding salt and pepper to a conversation.

Don't take anything to heart. Nubs.

Slight tweak that would make things a little bit more even:
1st. Change Irikani head to "Not good"
2nd. Change witchwood bracelet and the spell "prev" to "Not evil"
3rd. Add a couple of neutral only resistance items like a lim-5 belt that is +10 resist all and an unlim ring that is +5 resist all

Quote from: interchange on March 05, 2010, 12:57:09 PM
Slight tweak that would make things a little bit more even:
1st. Change Irikani head to "Not good"
2nd. Change witchwood bracelet and the spell "prev" to "Not evil"
3rd. Add a couple of neutral only resistance items like a lim-5 belt that is +10 resist all and an unlim ring that is +5 resist all

I am not seeing all the merit you see in these ideas for some reason.
Listen peeps, *I INSULT PEOPLE*, thats what I do.

So when I respond to a forum, I insult people equally, I dont descriminate.

It's just me adding salt and pepper to a conversation.

Don't take anything to heart. Nubs.

I suppose when it comes down to it I could make neutral only items and add them to the game.  But when it comes down to it, I don't like making items just cuz.

Quote from: SluTFisHy on March 05, 2010, 11:53:04 AM
Talking trash on forums is one thing, that i respect

You can do your best to berate me, but I'll stand by my post. When I see something that looks like bullshit, I'm going to call you on it. I'd say that's a hell of a lot more noble concept than your self-admitted one of "Trash talking on the forums is one thing that I respect".

You are a literal tool. Next time at least *TRY to give your post the feel of something other than a fourth grade poop flinging letter.



The real question is can we actually trust Deathcow, period?

After the whole thing on pvp, I'm inclined to say no we cant.

I will say that the alignment changes to typically good only items oon here isnt an original idea to either Mackerel or DC. Its something thats obvious to everyone that is even a little knowledgeable about the game. Neutral should be able to use both evil and good spells and items. We know its a bitch to stay neutral and only one class really should ever be neutral as the data files stand now (druid) plus perhaps one cleric with rod of might. Everyone else is better off good or evil, depending.

Even so, I dont know if DC is the right person to trust with a 'mod10' at all.

Quote from: schwagg on March 05, 2010, 05:27:42 PM
You are a literal tool. Next time at least *TRY to give your post the feel of something other than a fourth grade poop flinging letter.

The funny thing is, is you feel vindicated by this post, but the truth is, doesn't matter what you say nobody is stupid enough to believe your bullshit.

You think too highly of yourself and your a douchebag, I told you not to respond to my post as noone else wants to hear it.
Listen peeps, *I INSULT PEOPLE*, thats what I do.

So when I respond to a forum, I insult people equally, I dont descriminate.

It's just me adding salt and pepper to a conversation.

Don't take anything to heart. Nubs.

But anyway, I am just curious. Deathcow are you really considering changing the 5th quest weapons and alignment gear to notgood, not evil, etc..

and if so, when you think?
Listen peeps, *I INSULT PEOPLE*, thats what I do.

So when I respond to a forum, I insult people equally, I dont descriminate.

It's just me adding salt and pepper to a conversation.

Don't take anything to heart. Nubs.

I wouldn't change the quest items.  I mentioned it because I had the idea pop to mind after reading the release notes and I hadn't had a chance to go through the database and hunt down the items I'd like to change.  I had asked if anyone saw any problem with doing that in case there are OP combos that I hadn't forseen.  One thing I certainly won't be doing is editting quest items to be usable by people that can't quest for them, or at least I'd need a really good argument to do that, because it seems a little off base to me.  That being said I haven't even had a chance to look over the effects.  This thread turned stupid so I'll look it over and get back to ya.  If I like the way it looks I'll make an update export for it.

For the most part I've held off on doing any content changes because the realm is so broken as is.  Its completely off base atm and I can't see any reason to try and test a change when its broken.

Atm I'm kinda at this point where I wonder if its worth struggling to get the game to be an exact copy of majormud anyway.  We might as well just move toward the improved future.

If anyone care some of the ideas I'm currently looking at...reverting stat based accuracy to agility int charm, rather than str and agility.  Removing Combat Level and replacing it with several different stats, basically a new stat for each of the equations Combat-Level shows up in.  So you'd have a swing rate stat, acc stat etc.  I just think this would give us a little bit more customization when it comes to classes, and maybe allow for some balancing without throwing out everything we know about the game. 

Not that its really related but I've been working on an aggro system to replace the random chance or attack last system.

I'm warming more and more to this idea.  I'm not exactly a gear wizard, but I thought it would just give too many options to the Neutral class.. but the more I play around with it, the more cool it seems.  Yes, it does help being able to equip certain items like plat plate and combine it with an evil weapon (like brimstone hammer, hellblade or laen).. but not to the point of being overpowered.  But that's just me playin around with setups after I should be in bed.. as with most things, I'm sure someone will find a loophole to make their char just ridiculous.. but I still think it'd be pretty cool.
If a little knowledge is dangerous, where is a man who has so much as to be out of danger?

Lol what is up with your karma hehe.  Its not gonna be every item. Its just gonna be 1/3 to 1/2 of the items.

Is there any way we can remove that "You are too evil to perform this action!" from the game please.

that is the most rediculous concept ever to impliment into a game. How in the world can anyone be "too evil"

serial killers never stop and go "oh shit, wait, i already killed 5 people this week, fuck i cant kill again until after church on sunday"
yeah no... dont think so.. lol.. but anyway... yeah can we please do something about that?
Listen peeps, *I INSULT PEOPLE*, thats what I do.

So when I respond to a forum, I insult people equally, I dont descriminate.

It's just me adding salt and pepper to a conversation.

Don't take anything to heart. Nubs.

Its an anti abuse protocol.  We can change it from stopping the action to an instant kill sys lightning. Or ya know...something detrimental.

Quote from: DeathCow on March 05, 2010, 11:54:19 PM
Lol what is up with your karma hehe. 

Slutfish.. he hits me about every day with negative karma on about every post I've made so far.
If a little knowledge is dangerous, where is a man who has so much as to be out of danger?

March 06, 2010, 09:47:42 AM #29 Last Edit: March 06, 2010, 09:54:26 AM by DeathCow
Quote from: SluTFisHy on March 06, 2010, 03:30:28 AM
Is there any way we can remove that "You are too evil to perform this action!" from the game please.
... yeah can we please do something about that?

How about this.  
Jacked this from mudcentral..kinda
-220   <= Saint   < -200 (EP * 2) {Changed to EP * 3}
-200   <= Good   < -50 (EP * 2)
-50   <= Neutral   < 30
30   <= Seedy   < 40 (No EP )
40   <= Outlaw   < 80 (No EP; Guards attack)
80   <= Criminal   < 120 (No EP; Guards attack)
120   <= Villain   < 210 (No EP; Guards attack)
210   <= Fiend   < 300 (No EP; Guards attack)
300  <= Fiend  < 999 (No Ep; Gods Strike with lightning(-1/3 max Hps) each time EPs gained, Bounty Hunters attack)

The final Fiend would be displayed in an even more bold color, the Bounty Hunters would be based on the players level and be extremely inconvenient. At 301 eps a bounty hunter would summon about every 699 minutes, and 999 eps a bounty hunter would summon about every 1 minute.

At 999 EPs the player simply doesn't gain anymore eps, but will likely be spending the better part of the next 39 days in a safe room.