Discipline

[PTERY]

Sometimes players are banned for things they do in-game. The other night a bunch of people took stuff from the white house while the defenders of the white house couldn't defend it because of bugs.

Please don't ban anyone for this. We are 20-30 human beings tops by my count. Every time someone gets banned that's like 3-5% of the entire population. The game is only fun (and people will only beta test it) if there are enough other people to play with (and against).

[Zetetic]

Despite it being my house that was robbed, I am inclined to agree. I don't want to see the players that care about the game be banned from what I feel is the best hope for a future for this game. However, leaving them with no repercussions to their actions will only encourage them to further exploit bugs for their own purposes. I honestly cannot think of a fitting punishment that is not too harsh or nothing more than 'a slap on the wrist'. Maybe lock them in the old Newhaven dungeons with Will for a few lives.

The exception that I will make is that Itachi in particulars conduct was unbecoming of a community whose main goal should be the improvement of the game itself. He happily stated on gossip that he didn't care about what Greatermud is trying to achieve and that his own grievances against the game fueled his actions. Perhaps he was just trying to get a rise out of others in the game, I cannot be a fair judge of that. Feel free to defend yourself Itachi.

All I ask is that anyone whose intention is such that it will not be beneficial to the improvement of the game should remove themselves from it and find a more productive use of their time.

[schwagg]

All I ask is that anyone whose intention is such that it will not be beneficial to the improvement of the game should remove themselves from it and find a more productive use of their time.

If this happened there would hardly be any players left on Gmud.

[Gardner Denver]

The 3 people most directly involved were each handed a 48 hour suspension tonight.  This was done after discussion between Vitoc and myself.  We both agreed that something should be done.  

Had I been online when the timers broke then they would have been caught before they could do any harm and dealt with then.  

[Thergin]

So the saga continues.

Sigh

[Excarkun]

Personally this is all fubard how it was handled.
Only one acct was suspended for raiding the white  gang house when we all know there were 2 or more.
WTF

And on top of all that in the end what items they didn't FLUSH they keep??
Tell me how is that even Fair??

Well overall i know that next time I can abuse a bug like that and steal gear I'll get 2 days off and still keep the goods ..

Sounds like a sweet deal to me.

[Gardner Denver]

You want the gear that was kept?  Go kill who has it.

You want the gear that was flushed?  Go get it from the boss.

You want a teleport to a 250 million exp boss for the 10 or 15 times minimum it will take you to recover the gear so it can be stuck in a gang house vault?  Go get a clue.  You want to kill Zanthus multiple times?  Roll your character and go get him.

If you had caps of other people being involved then you should have gotten them to me when it happened.  4 days after the fact is a little late to be doing anything about it.

As far as we're concerned the matter is closed.  We won't regen the items.  We're not going to spawn bosses or provide teleports to those bosses.  You have other options available for getting your gear back, I suggest you make use of them.

[Excarkun]

I make it more clear, really four days now?
When I know this has been pointed out from day one?

Overall Are u going to Make them wear the stolen gear??????  NO you cant so not going to be able to kill them for it.

Now if I was to steal from you. Lets say a  car or tv and  I get caught you wouldn't want it back? After I spend time or before in jail?  Yea i bet you would and would get it back.
I would not get to keep it.

Same should applied here all Items stolen by abusing bugs should be returned or flushed.

I'm done playing mud for now...

later

[Gardner Denver]

Well fortunately we're not discussing a car or a TV.

We're discussing 1's and 0's in a text based fantasy game.

I told you day 1 I would take no action without proof.  If yall had caps then you should have provided them as I requested.

Your gang leader isn't pushing the issue, none of the rest of your gang is pushing the issue, the person who has the caps has not bothered to contact me at all about them.

If you know who took your gear then start killing them.  Continue killing them until they get rolled or get tired of dying and tell you where your stuff is.  Alternatively we have the carebear realm where your items are always safe and sound...

Since you quit though I guess it doesn't matter to much.

[The Crazy Animal]

The best remedy for this that I can think of is in non-pvp mode is that players do not have the get item ability while in a gang house for which they are not a member.

[Gardner Denver]

This happened in the pvp realm Animal.  The people took advantage of a bug that locked the round timers.  Neither players nor mobs could engage combat.  Several houses were raided out during this time period.

[Thergin]

I was told that you didnt need to be spammed with caps so I sat on mine hehe :)

[The Crazy Animal]

This happened in the pvp realm Animal.  The people took advantage of a bug that locked the round timers.  Neither players nor mobs could engage combat.  Several houses were raided out during this time period.

Could add in that it could be used with a timer check to detect and go on if the timers are locked up in pvp mode as a safe guard.

[Excarkun]

 :D I can careless about Items, as you can see my acct don't have any  limiteds on him.

What upset me was just like I stated the way it was handle.
Granted my gang mates were saying they would send pm's and seemed to be as or more upset. And good possibility was all sent to victoc only.
But  Did they ??? F#$% Do I Know. Guess Not.. :-*  phhsssht
But I still Think somehow the items should of been flushed or returned,
That is if I was OP which, I'm NOT, but that is how I'll do it.  AND  WITHOUT regenerating Items. Which by the WAY was Never asked so don't know why you stated that.
As for the other things they were only Suggestions, Not Request. I guess I wasn't Clear with that one.


Won't EVER see me on non-pvp, It just too damn boring, Besides I'll go nutz Not being able to attack "Rottin" there or what ever his accts names are on Sissy Realm.

BTW I'm one of the biggest crier's for Random (No WARNINGS) Limited Item Sweeps. I can see that bringing out more PVP and more getting a Party together for Gang house Raiding for Items. This will make having a thief in your gang WORTH while.

Not looking forward to gang Shops working, well that depends how they are setup. hope not reg mud were can set prices at 999 runics.


Well off to nuking Pc some more or waiting on Cash for upgrade..Which is what it needs

laters