Latest Release - 5-28-12 - Notes

Started by Gardner Denver, May 28, 2012, 03:04:04 PM

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  • Fixed good aligned mobs so they don't attack evils on sight.  This will fix the Khaz problem for evils.
  • Randomized monster target selection for attacks on players.
  • Worked on the timing of between round spells for monsters
  • Worked on problem with charmed monsters continuing to attack other mobs after spell wore off
  • Worked on problem with roomers not getting exp from area attacks if they do not get the kill blow
  • Added an easier method of sweeping limited items for Twogirlz and myself
  • Fixed (hopefully) limited item drop problem on pvp.

Quote from: Gardner Denver on May 28, 2012, 03:04:04 PM
Randomized monster target selection for attacks on players.[/li][/list]

Want to elaborate on this one please?

Quote from: kalus on May 28, 2012, 07:05:15 PM
Want to elaborate on this one please?

I was curious about that one too.


For purposes of this answer, assume that attack last and it's function have not been changed so don't get all upset when I do not mention it again.

Prior to this update, once a monster locked on to a player and engaged, it never selected another player unless the target died, hung, or left the room.  It also always attacked the first non hidden player in the room.

Now the monster will randomly select it's initial target and each subsequent round the monster can select a new random target to engage.  Charm is a factor in the selection process.  No I will not reveal the exact formula.

So mobs go after the ugliest char rather than the one which is the biggest threat to kill them... makes sense!

Quote from: kalus on May 29, 2012, 02:36:53 AM
So mobs go after the ugliest char rather than the one which is the biggest threat to kill them... makes sense!

If you want to give mobs a more realistic AI then that is something that can be discussed.  They are not going to go after ugly 100% of the time, ugly just has a slightly better chance of being selected.

Has anyone on PVP tried to go get limited items off of a non boss?  i.e. tiger-claws or sparkling pendants since this update was loaded?

You think non-boss was the problem?

Quote from: Stalkerr on May 31, 2012, 05:22:44 PM
You think non-boss was the problem?

Prior to the update not one non boss lim had dropped, several boss lims had.

Quote from: Gardner Denver on May 31, 2012, 08:22:26 PM
Prior to the update not one non boss lim had dropped, several boss lims had.

Remember that Portal dropped by the lady of the dark?

Quote from: Gardner Denver on May 29, 2012, 01:51:26 AM
For purposes of this answer, assume that attack last and it's function have not been changed so don't get all upset when I do not mention it again.
No idea if this has been established or not, but this is in no way the case. 

Newhaven, Arena
    This huge room is has been carved into the earth with crude work- manship.
The blood-soaked floor is covered in broken, rusted weaponry and some things
better left unmentioned. A huge iron gate sits in the west wall, and behind it
you can hear the growling of some unfathomable beast. A large black door is set
in the northern wall.
Also here: Kid, Play, large kobold thief, small acid slime.
Obvious exits: closed door north, up
The large kobold thief lunges at Play with their shortsword!
The small acid slime flails at Kid!
The large kobold thief lunges at Kid with their shortsword!
The small acid slime whips Play with its pseudopod for 9 damage!
Play is burned by acid for acid hits damage!
Play telepaths: @wait (HP's too low)
Play stops to rest.
The large kobold thief lunges at Play with their shortsword!
The small acid slime whips Play with its pseudopod for 8 damage!
Play is burned by acid for acid hits damage!
Play stops to rest.
[HP=51]:par
The following people are in your travel party:
  Tone                          (Warrior)             [H:100%]   - Frontrank
  Kid                           (Warrior)             [H:100%]   - Frontrank
  Play                          (Warrior)             [H: 60%] R - Frontrank
[HP=51]:
Newhaven, Arena
    This huge room is has been carved into the earth with crude work- manship.
The blood-soaked floor is covered in broken, rusted weaponry and some things
better left unmentioned. A huge iron gate sits in the west wall, and behind it
you can hear the growling of some unfathomable beast. A large black door is set
in the northern wall.
Also here: Kid, Play, large kobold thief, small acid slime.
Obvious exits: closed door north, up
The large kobold thief lunges at you with their shortsword!
The small acid slime flails at Play!
Play stops to rest.
[HP=51]:a ac
*Combat Engaged*
The large kobold thief lunges at you with their shortsword!
The small acid slime flails at you!
You punch small acid slime for 2 damage!
[HP=51]:
Newhaven, Arena
    This huge room is has been carved into the earth with crude work- manship.
The blood-soaked floor is covered in broken, rusted weaponry and some things
better left unmentioned. A huge iron gate sits in the west wall, and behind it
you can hear the growling of some unfathomable beast. A large black door is set
in the northern wall.
Also here: Kid, Play, large kobold thief, small acid slime.
Obvious exits: closed door north, up
The large kobold thief lunges at Kid with their shortsword!
The small acid slime whips you with its pseudopod for 5 damage!
Acid burns you for 1 damage!
You punch small acid slime for 3 damage!
You punch small acid slime for 3 damage!
The large kobold thief lunges at Play with their shortsword!
The small acid slime flails at you!
You punch small acid slime for 1 damage!
You punch small acid slime for 3 damage!
Play stops to rest.
[HP=45]:a k
*Combat Off*
*Combat Engaged*
[HP=45]:a ac
*Combat Off*
*Combat Engaged*
You critically punch small acid slime for 8 damage!
The large kobold thief lunges at Play with their shortsword!
The small acid slime flails at you!
Play stops to rest.
The large kobold thief lunges at Play with their shortsword!
The small acid slime lashes at you, but you dodge out of the way!
You punch small acid slime for 2 damage!
You punch small acid slime for 1 damage!
Play stops to rest.
[HP=45]:
Newhaven, Arena
    This huge room is has been carved into the earth with crude work- manship.
The blood-soaked floor is covered in broken, rusted weaponry and some things
better left unmentioned. A huge iron gate sits in the west wall, and behind it
you can hear the growling of some unfathomable beast. A large black door is set
in the northern wall.
Also here: Kid, Play, large kobold thief, small acid slime.
Obvious exits: closed door north, up
[HP=45]:par
The following people are in your travel party:
  Tone                          (Warrior)             [H: 88%]   - Frontrank
  Kid                           (Warrior)             [H:100%]   - Frontrank
  Play                          (Warrior)             [H: 64%] R - Frontrank
The large kobold thief lunges at Kid with their shortsword!
The small acid slime flails at Kid!
You punch small acid slime for 2 damage!
You punch small acid slime for 1 damage!
The large kobold thief lunges at Kid with their shortsword!
The small acid slime whips Kid with its pseudopod for 8 damage!
Kid is burned by acid for acid hits damage!
You punch small acid slime for 2 damage!
The acid slime dissolves into a puddle of bluish goo.
You gain 16 experience.
*Combat Off*
Kid telepaths: @wait (HP's too low)
Kid stops to rest.

At the beginning when I attacked the acid slime it appears that he is engaged on me, he loses interest after awhile.

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Prior to this update, once a monster locked on to a player and engaged, it never selected another player unless the target died, hung, or left the room.  It also always attacked the first non hidden player in the room.

Now the monster will randomly select it's initial target and each subsequent round the monster can select a new random target to engage.  Charm is a factor in the selection process.  No I will not reveal the exact formula.

Ok so I rolled kid to 90 charm while the others have 40..

The large kobold thief lunges at you with their shortsword!
The large filthbug swipes at you with its claws!
The large kobold thief lunges at you with their shortsword!
The large filthbug swipes at you with its claws!
The large kobold thief lunges at you with their shortsword!
The large filthbug swipes at Play with its claws!
The large kobold thief lunges at you with their shortsword!
The large filthbug swipes at Play with its claws!
The large kobold thief lunges at you with their shortsword!
The large filthbug swipes at Play with its claws!
The large kobold thief lunges at you with their shortsword!
The large filthbug swipes at you with its claws!
The large kobold thief lunges at you with their shortsword!
The large filthbug swipes at you with its claws!
The large kobold thief lunges at Kid with their shortsword!
The large filthbug swipes at you with its claws!
The large kobold thief lunges at Kid with their shortsword!
The large filthbug swipes at Play with its claws!
The large kobold thief lunges at Kid with their shortsword!
The large filthbug swipes at Kid with its claws!
The large kobold thief lunges at Kid with their shortsword!
The large filthbug swipes at Kid with its claws!
The large kobold thief lunges at Play with their shortsword!
The large filthbug swipes at Play with its claws!


I dunno..it vaguely looks like their might be a difference...who knows I guess we let it run a bit longer...lets see.  I had originally said to myself why bother testing this?  Because even if it was working as intended it is completely flawed from inception...but wtf I'll be back with the results from the longer results in a few min.

The large kobold thief lunges at Kid with their shortsword!
The large filthbug swipes at Kid with its claws!
The large kobold thief lunges at Kid with their shortsword!
The large filthbug swipes at Kid with its claws!
The large kobold thief lunges at Kid with their shortsword!
The large filthbug swipes at Kid with its claws!
The large kobold thief lunges at Play with their shortsword!
The large filthbug swipes at Kid with its claws!
The large kobold thief lunges at Play with their shortsword!
The large filthbug swipes at Kid with its claws!
The large kobold thief lunges at Kid with their shortsword!
The large filthbug swipes at Kid with its claws!
The large kobold thief lunges at Kid with their shortsword!
The large filthbug swipes at Kid with its claws!
The large kobold thief lunges at you with their shortsword!
The large filthbug swipes at Play with its claws!
The large kobold thief lunges at you with their shortsword!
The large filthbug swipes at Kid with its claws!
The large kobold thief lunges at you with their shortsword!
The large filthbug swipes at Play with its claws!
The large kobold thief lunges at you with their shortsword!
The large filthbug swipes at Kid with its claws!
The large kobold thief lunges at you with their shortsword!
The large filthbug swipes at Kid with its claws!
The large kobold thief lunges at you with their shortsword!
The large filthbug swipes at Kid with its claws!
The large kobold thief lunges at you with their shortsword!
The large filthbug swipes at Kid with its claws!
The large kobold thief lunges at you with their shortsword!
The large filthbug swipes at Kid with its claws!
The large kobold thief lunges at you with their shortsword!
The large filthbug swipes at Kid with its claws!
The large kobold thief lunges at Play with their shortsword!
The large filthbug swipes at you with its claws!
The large kobold thief lunges at Play with their shortsword!
The large filthbug swipes at Play with its claws!
The large kobold thief lunges at Play with their shortsword!
The large filthbug swipes at Play with its claws!
The large kobold thief lunges at Play with their shortsword!
The large filthbug swipes at you with its claws!
The large kobold thief lunges at Play with their shortsword!
The large filthbug swipes at you with its claws!
The large kobold thief lunges at Play with their shortsword!
The large filthbug swipes at you with its claws!
The large kobold thief lunges at Play with their shortsword!
The large filthbug swipes at you with its claws!
The large kobold thief lunges at you with their shortsword!
The large filthbug swipes at Kid with its claws!
The large kobold thief lunges at you with their shortsword!
The large filthbug swipes at Kid with its claws!
The large kobold thief lunges at you with their shortsword!
The large filthbug swipes at Kid with its claws!
The large kobold thief lunges at Kid with their shortsword!
The large filthbug swipes at Kid with its claws!
The large kobold thief lunges at Kid with their shortsword!
The large filthbug swipes at you with its claws!
The large kobold thief lunges at Kid with their shortsword!
The large filthbug swipes at you with its claws!
The large kobold thief lunges at Play with their shortsword!
The large filthbug swipes at you with its claws!
The large kobold thief lunges at Kid with their shortsword!
The large filthbug swipes at you with its claws!
The large kobold thief lunges at Play with their shortsword!
The large filthbug swipes at you with its claws!
The large kobold thief lunges at you with their shortsword!
The large filthbug swipes at you with its claws!
The large kobold thief lunges at you with their shortsword!
The large filthbug swipes at you with its claws!
The large kobold thief lunges at Kid with their shortsword!
The large filthbug swipes at you with its claws!
The large kobold thief lunges at you with their shortsword!
The large filthbug swipes at you with its claws!
The large kobold thief lunges at you with their shortsword!
The large filthbug swipes at you with its claws!
The large kobold thief lunges at you with their shortsword!
The large filthbug swipes at you with its claws!
The large kobold thief lunges at Kid with their shortsword!
The large filthbug swipes at you with its claws!
The large kobold thief lunges at Play with their shortsword!
The large filthbug swipes at you with its claws!
The large kobold thief lunges at Play with their shortsword!
The large filthbug swipes at you with its claws!
The large kobold thief lunges at Play with their shortsword!
The large filthbug swipes at you with its claws!
The large kobold thief lunges at Play with their shortsword!
The large filthbug swipes at Kid with its claws!
The large kobold thief lunges at Kid with their shortsword!
The large filthbug swipes at Kid with its claws!
The large kobold thief lunges at Play with their shortsword!
The large filthbug swipes at Kid with its claws!
The large kobold thief lunges at you with their shortsword!
The large filthbug swipes at Kid with its claws!
The large kobold thief lunges at Kid with their shortsword!
The large filthbug swipes at Kid with its claws!
The large kobold thief lunges at Kid with their shortsword!
The large filthbug swipes at Kid with its claws!
The large kobold thief lunges at Kid with their shortsword!
The large filthbug swipes at Kid with its claws!
The large kobold thief lunges at Kid with their shortsword!
The large filthbug swipes at Kid with its claws!
The large kobold thief lunges at Kid with their shortsword!
The large filthbug swipes at Kid with its claws!
The large kobold thief lunges at Kid with their shortsword!
The large filthbug swipes at Kid with its claws!
The large kobold thief lunges at Kid with their shortsword!
The large filthbug swipes at Kid with its claws!
The large kobold thief lunges at Kid with their shortsword!
The large filthbug swipes at Kid with its claws!
The large kobold thief lunges at Kid with their shortsword!
The large filthbug swipes at Kid with its claws!
The large kobold thief lunges at Kid with their shortsword!
The large filthbug swipes at Kid with its claws!
The large kobold thief lunges at you with their shortsword!
The large filthbug swipes at Play with its claws!
The large kobold thief lunges at you with their shortsword!
The large filthbug swipes at Kid with its claws!
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The large kobold thief lunges at you with their shortsword!
The large filthbug swipes at Kid with its claws!
The large kobold thief lunges at Play with their shortsword!
The large filthbug swipes at Kid with its claws!
The large kobold thief lunges at Play with their shortsword!
The large filthbug swipes at Kid with its claws!
The large kobold thief lunges at Kid with their shortsword!
The large filthbug swipes at you with its claws!
The large kobold thief lunges at you with their shortsword!
The large filthbug swipes at you with its claws!
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The large kobold thief lunges at you with their shortsword!
The large filthbug swipes at you with its claws!
The large kobold thief lunges at you with their shortsword!
The large filthbug swipes at you with its claws!
The large kobold thief lunges at you with their shortsword!
The large filthbug swipes at you with its claws!
The large kobold thief lunges at you with their shortsword!
The large filthbug swipes at you with its claws!
The large kobold thief lunges at you with their shortsword!
The large filthbug swipes at Play with its claws!
The large kobold thief lunges at you with their shortsword!
The large filthbug swipes at you with its claws!
The large kobold thief lunges at you with their shortsword!
The large filthbug swipes at you with its claws!
The large kobold thief lunges at Kid with their shortsword!
The large filthbug swipes at Play with its claws!
The large kobold thief lunges at Kid with their shortsword!
The large filthbug swipes at you with its claws!
The large kobold thief lunges at Kid with their shortsword!
The large filthbug swipes at you with its claws!
The large kobold thief lunges at Kid with their shortsword!
The large filthbug swipes at you with its claws!
The large kobold thief lunges at Kid with their shortsword!
The large filthbug swipes at Kid with its claws!
The large kobold thief lunges at Kid with their shortsword!
The large filthbug swipes at you with its claws!
The large kobold thief lunges at Kid with their shortsword!
The large filthbug swipes at you with its claws!
The large kobold thief lunges at you with their shortsword!
The large filthbug swipes at you with its claws!
The large kobold thief lunges at you with their shortsword!
The large filthbug swipes at Play with its claws!
The large kobold thief lunges at Play with their shortsword!
The large filthbug swipes at Play with its claws!
The large kobold thief lunges at Play with their shortsword!
The large filthbug swipes at Play with its claws!
The large kobold thief lunges at Play with their shortsword!
The large filthbug swipes at Play with its claws!
The large kobold thief lunges at Play with their shortsword!
The large filthbug swipes at Play with its claws!
The large kobold thief lunges at Kid with their shortsword!
The large filthbug swipes at Play with its claws!
The large kobold thief lunges at Kid with their shortsword!
The large filthbug swipes at Play with its claws!
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The large kobold thief lunges at Kid with their shortsword!
The large filthbug swipes at you with its claws!
The large kobold thief lunges at Kid with their shortsword!
The large filthbug swipes at you with its claws!
The large kobold thief lunges at Kid with their shortsword!
The large filthbug swipes at Kid with its claws!
The large kobold thief lunges at you with their shortsword!
The large filthbug swipes at Play with its claws!
The large kobold thief lunges at Play with their shortsword!
The large filthbug swipes at Play with its claws!
The large kobold thief lunges at Play with their shortsword!
The large filthbug swipes at Play with its claws!
The large kobold thief lunges at Play with their shortsword!
The large filthbug swipes at Play with its claws!
The large kobold thief lunges at you with their shortsword!
The large filthbug swipes at Play with its claws!
The large kobold thief lunges at you with their shortsword!
The large filthbug swipes at Play with its claws!
The large kobold thief lunges at you with their shortsword!
The large filthbug swipes at Kid with its claws!
The large kobold thief lunges at you with their shortsword!
The large filthbug swipes at Kid with its claws!
The large kobold thief lunges at you with their shortsword!
The large filthbug swipes at Kid with its claws!
The large kobold thief lunges at Kid with their shortsword!
The large filthbug swipes at Kid with its claws!

Without going crazy with counting or something..Kid has 90 charm, the other 2 have 40....So we can conclude that your statement about charm effecting the selection and last attack working is 100% wrong.

Quote from: Gardner Denver on May 28, 2012, 03:04:04 PM

  • Fixed good aligned mobs so they don't attack evils on sight.  This will fix the Khaz problem for evils.
Khazarad, Craft Street
Also here: large dwarven warrior.
Obvious exits: north, south, east, west
Play walks into the room from the west.
Kid walks into the room from the west.
[HP=48]:pro
Player ID:           382
Location:            6,1305
EPs:                 59.45
Life for this CHAR   36
Display Mode:        Brief
Broadcast Channel:   0
Talking speed:       Fast
Receive Items:       Enabled
Warn on Evil:        No
Allow Gossip:   Yes
Style:               Fantasy
Colour Palette:      0

Omg successsssssssssssssssssssssssss[/list]

Quote from: Gardner Denver on May 28, 2012, 03:04:04 PM

  • Worked on the timing of between round spells for monsters

You changed it from firing at the 3rd second in a 5 second round to the 4th.  This means you will need to be able to count to 4 instead of only 3 to abuse this bizzare system.  Is this a nerf targeted at Tiny?  These spell should just fire during combat, like they were intended to.  I'm not sure what this change was intended to address as it doesn't fix the abuses discussed.[/list]