Insight into duping

Started by Torque, February 18, 2014, 02:08:00 PM

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Hi friends! Because of the current decline of my gaming interest from getting older and balls deep into aviation, I have decided to bring out the A-bomb for duping. The main purpose of this post is to shed light on the activities that go behind the scenes on GreaterMUD. I am full of knowledge, and while most of that I won't share, I'll share pertinenant things. In the very future soon, I wish to be working with Gardner to turn GreaterMUD into a wonderful majestic palace, if he so wishes to utilize my exceptional amount of knowledge. Here is an excerpt from a discussion I had with person(s) about Efa, one of the gods of duping. Efa is a great character, the guy behind him is a 'mud god' if you will. Think of it as Roman/Greek gods, since there's a few of us, and we all have our different ways of dominating. Efa's is espionage, duping, and social engineering. I have redacted or eliminated whole lines of text as to increase brevity. This is not the whole conversation mind you, but these include all the key points I want to bring up.

07:56am Torque gossips: efa
07:56am Torque gossips: mar wessette = hilarious
07:56am Torque gossips: i was dyin listenin to my corpies complain
08:22am Torque gangpaths: poorboy = queer = efa who says he doesnt play anymore
08:22am REDACTED gangpaths: its not efa
08:22am Torque gangpaths: yes... but you dont know that for sure
08:22am Torque gangpaths: you only have common knowledge that its not
08:23am Torque gangpaths: i have a long history with efa
08:23am Torque gangpaths: we jam on Eve online together
08:23am Torque gangpaths: he made a dupe and wardecced my corp, the guy is a serial duper as well
08:23am Torque gangpaths: he got annoyed with me after i figured out who it was, i tracked his movements for two weeks in eve online
08:24am Torque gangpaths: then when i figured it out, i burned him
08:24am Torque gangpaths: all his dupe names in eve, i posted it every where
08:24am Torque gangpaths: we used to hang out on teamspeak, voice chat as well
08:25am Torque gangpaths: long history
08:27am Torque gangpaths: http://evewho.com/pilot/Efa+OwnzYou
08:28am REDACTED gangpaths: efa was from REDACTED (city)
08:28am Torque gangpaths: no, efa is from REDACTED (city)
08:28am Torque gangpaths: i have his IP
08:28am Torque gangpaths: he lived in REDACTED (city) last year
08:29am Torque gangpaths: zing
08:30am Torque gangpaths: i also remember seeing a few posts in forumshq about him and artic being dupes, then he made a campaign to seperate the two
08:30am Torque gangpaths: names
08:31am Torque gangpaths: this is important to you all because he will try to infiltrate, that's the name of the game in EVE, so naturally that
08:31am Torque gangpaths: skillset will carry over

08:31am REDACTED gangpaths: artic did vanish
08:31am Torque gangpaths: yessir
08:32am Torque gangpaths: efa's main repetoire for trolling is asking pseudo inflammatory questions
08:32am Torque gangpaths: like: "was it because he was black?"
08:32am Torque gangpaths: you'll see pb do the same shit, beaver too

08:32am Torque gangpaths: i know im a crazy fuck, but the psychology of gaming is what i zone in on for some reason
08:32am Torque gangpaths: haha
08:33am Torque gangpaths: eve made me that way

As you can tell from this conversation I seemingly had with myself, these bits of information come off the tongue very naturally, which means it's information I'm intimate with. The reason information doesn't come out like this easily is because #1 personal information should never be presented to the public since it can indirectly lead to actual safety issues, but also because #2 ratting on people is really boring and dumb, until you start getting into #1 for keeping your mouth shut.
Efa and I decided to part ways, his reason is cited as 'torque is annoying' and my reason is cited as 'i don't deal with people who will do anything to look cool, including #1 stuff'. I only mention this because I'm validating how serious I am with all this. Personal safety is an issue I'm paranoid about especially after my exposure to.. military conditions and also to statistical information about the general populous (used to plan in S&D missions along the Mexican border). Now lets take a step back from real #*$% and head into the magical world of duping.. come aboard!

Excerpt from: http://www.greatermud.com/forums/index.php?topic=4595.0
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Hi friends! More proof that Efa is Beaver:

1/26/2014 9:16 AM Beaver gossips: gardner doesn't like blacks?

It never gets old Efa!
"

and

"
anjinsanus
artic
beaver
ethan virus
efa
efa ownzyou
mar wesette
samantha newberry
"

..And now Poorboy should be on that list. As you can see from that topic there are a list of names Efa utilizes. Some of them I have confirmed, well most of them I have confirmed. But it brings up a great point. There is NO way you can ever confirm 100% of the dupes, the same way you can't prove that OJ did it. Also, he probably has a lot more in GreaterMUD that I haven't mentioned, since none of them have greatly affected my personal gameplay, so I never bothered to research fully.

What does Efa do with all these names, these dupe players? Does it really matter? Well for example, he uses Efa/Beaver to sit in or around the bank for surveillance reasons. If you remember, Efa always sat in the bank, exclaiming that he didn't play. He's come in, talk smack - usually pulling a weak race card for the lulz and to incite discussions, and then sit afk. He'd also know where you were if you were in town. For this reason, I have exclusively utilized Godfrey for tracking other's movements as well; I'd use Khaz any time I could. Of course, some times it didn't matter or he wasn't logged in.

How does he do it? This I know very well, and can easily share it. It's not that difficult, but it does take some work and knowledge of certain CSCI topics. Really not that difficult though. With my knowledge, I can easily help Gardy out by telling him all the stop gaps, checks, etc. that trace dupes to a point of obvious dupage. Most of you have common knowledge of things I brought to the game a long time ago like Teamviewer, but it really doesn't stop there.

Efa of course is just one example in the sea of examples. So who are the others? That is what I can help Gardner with if he wants my help (or whoever is taking over dupe check). I highly recommend that no one respond to this thread in order to avoid highlighting yourself, but since I even mentioned that, you might be free to rant and rave anyway. I warned some about this looming A-bomb on duping, and this certainly is the Hiroshima. If you know anything about history, the war didn't end until Nagasaki, which I am fully ready to drop depending on how it plays out and if I feel unsecure about my personal information. Either way, if Gard/vitoc wishes to utilize my services, GreaterMUD will become a better place, at least in the duping aspect.

I am not going to elaborate on any of this but here you go:

Artic and Beaver are two very seperate people bud sorry.  Not only have I spoken to the two of them I have delt with them personally outside of Mud.  You sir are a retard, GJ TORK THE DORK. YOU DORKKNIGHT DETECTIVE YOU

February 18, 2014, 02:26:05 PM #2 Last Edit: February 18, 2014, 02:35:50 PM by Torque
:) btw duhh hates everything I say or do. Does he dupe?


edit:

Quote from gossip:
2/18/2014 12:19 PM JUGGERNAUT gossips: so either he is an elaborate troll with every he knows



As much as he hates me, he already provides doubt on his belief, and actually quite easily

Quote from: Torque on February 18, 2014, 02:26:05 PM
:) btw duhh hates everything I say or do.

Duhh hates everyone and everything.

This is where Duhh will post a response like this, "NOOOO, I ONLY HATE YOU GUYS."
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I don't even know who you are Coarse, also I love Beaver and Artic so therefore I can't hate everything

My gossip was merely a joke Beaver is a weird dude and is completely uncapable of acting like Efa, I've evern seen his coworkers ask him why he acts that way.  So you are saying that Beaver is completely aspergerish to everyone in the world so that he can pretend tobe Efa who is somewhat normal in an online world? You my friend are what we call delusional.


Tork I beleive al this posts proves is
1) You are a batshit crazy weirdo
2) Vitoc and Gardner should look into this post cuz those are borderline stalkerish behaviors and who knows what you're going to do next

can only imagine what duhh's motivation here, can we?

someone is out of their league


Torque,

You are having a manic episode.

lulz

also from pb gang. get creative

Part 2: In between Hiro and Naga


Hi again friends! It appears this tactical placement of burn notice and collateral desctruction has succeeded in 'stopping the war', at least for now. I learned a lot of things, a lot of which I didn't expect to learn, but there is one thing I very much expected, and that's Gardner and I have not been successful in a duping hunting coalition, which leads me to recur my statements that all mud/sysops play in their own realms. Facts to utilize when playing GreaterMUD:

1. There is a keylogger watching everything you do
2. Don't piss off Vitoc, Gard, DC or anyone who has or has had information related to IP addresses, etc.
3. If you are an average Joe player, we all envy you for simply having a good time - and lately it's what I strive to be.
4. Nothing will ever be fair, so any victories you have are actually more potent than just a simple victory. Game on!

February 20, 2014, 12:21:20 PM #10 Last Edit: February 20, 2014, 03:01:59 PM by anjinsanus
I hate to burst your bubble, but I'm real.  Leave me out of this.
Moran.

It's hard to take any of this seriously when it comes from one of the most notorious dupes in the realm.  In fact, I'm not even sure if you or one of your dupes wrote this.  There is no argument that dupes are rampant here, but releasing individual IP addresses to non-board owners is definitely not the answer.  When my house gets fire-bombed because I killed someone in Greatermud, I need to be able to tell the FCC who had access to my IP address.


2ORK, are your friends and family aware that you are off your meds?